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 In [[http://xylaria.dreamwidth.org/576.html|her Dear Yuletide Author letter]], Xylaria requested female characters for Pern, particularly Mirrim (but she listed several others as possibilities). She wanted femslash or gen for Mirrim or Menolly, and either of those or canon het for the others. What she got was "Queen," [[http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2011/works/298152|OMC/OMC slash in which the female character shows up //only// to dress one OMC's wounds]]. In [[http://xylaria.dreamwidth.org/576.html|her Dear Yuletide Author letter]], Xylaria requested female characters for Pern, particularly Mirrim (but she listed several others as possibilities). She wanted femslash or gen for Mirrim or Menolly, and either of those or canon het for the others. What she got was "Queen," [[http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2011/works/298152|OMC/OMC slash in which the female character shows up //only// to dress one OMC's wounds]].
  
-Xylaria left a civil comment à la, “I didn’t request this, but it was well-written and I’m happy there are people who enjoy it.” For this she was called out in the comments of the fic, especially by “Cult of Nice” specialists [[w/page/95255414/Watson%20Sisters|Greer Watson and her sister FA Watson]]. A wankstorm blew up, and it hit FFA (see links below). The author added a passive-aggressive A/N in which he revealed that the fic was just a rewrite of something he was writing as a pinch hit anyway, and:+Xylaria left a civil comment à la, “I didn’t request this, but it was well-written and I’m happy there are people who enjoy it.” For this she was called out in the comments of the fic, especially by “Cult of Nice” specialists [[watson-sisters|Greer Watson and her sister FA Watson]]. A wankstorm blew up, and it hit FFA (see links below). The author added a passive-aggressive A/N in which he revealed that the fic was just a rewrite of something he was writing as a pinch hit anyway, and:
  
 I’d never have guessed anyone would attach such political statements to which gender gets a break or that choosing the“wrong” gender would create such a vitriolic response. I’d surely have kept my distance if I had realised this. To me genders are equal. It’s not as if that story was about more than affection, emotions and finding one’s place in a sexist society. I’m truly sorry I assumed gender would make no difference with such feelings. I’d never have guessed anyone would attach such political statements to which gender gets a break or that choosing the“wrong” gender would create such a vitriolic response. I’d surely have kept my distance if I had realised this. To me genders are equal. It’s not as if that story was about more than affection, emotions and finding one’s place in a sexist society. I’m truly sorry I assumed gender would make no difference with such feelings.
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-  * A nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/41550.html?thread=190324814#t190324814|nominated]] the previous year’s [[w/page/49192965/Yuletide%20Wanks%20by%20Year#GayBashingDragonFicWank|“Gay Bashing Dragon Fic”]] as a “fandom,” and Yuletide mods rejected it. Meme reaction was mixed. +  * A nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/41550.html?thread=190324814#t190324814|nominated]] the previous year’s “Gay Bashing Dragon Fic” as a “fandom,” and Yuletide mods rejected it. Meme reaction was mixed. 
-  * [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43393.html?thread=197879169#t197879169|The Chromatic Yuletide Challenge.]] Mod elliemurasaki, known at the time as MercuryBlue (and a [[w/page/59339647/Slacktiverse|Slacktiverse]] regular; also known as Alex Seanchai), [[http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1094677.html|stated in the Yuletide LJ comm]] that the challenge was about “characters who have skin that cannot be described as ‘pale’ or ‘fair’.” She was taken to task by several commenters who said POC can indeed have pale skin, as race is often constructed along lines other than skin color. She also attempted to apply the Bechdel Test to race, which she eventually walked back. Her advice to white people trying to write “chromatic” characters was, “Try not to be a failboat.” As [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43393.html?thread=197881729#t197881729|one nonny pointed out]], such advice is woefully insufficient, because nobody //tries// to be one. [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43393.html?thread=197902977#t197902977|Various memers of color]] expressed dislike of the term “chromatic.” There was a minor bit of FFA followup [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43702.html?thread=198075062#t198075062|here]], as well as [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=711984#t711984|a _coal thread]].+  * [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43393.html?thread=197879169#t197879169|The Chromatic Yuletide Challenge.]] Mod elliemurasaki, known at the time as MercuryBlue (and a [[Slacktiverse]] regular; also known as Alex Seanchai), [[http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1094677.html|stated in the Yuletide LJ comm]] that the challenge was about “characters who have skin that cannot be described as ‘pale’ or ‘fair’.” She was taken to task by several commenters who said POC can indeed have pale skin, as race is often constructed along lines other than skin color. She also attempted to apply the Bechdel Test to race, which she eventually walked back. Her advice to white people trying to write “chromatic” characters was, “Try not to be a failboat.” As [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43393.html?thread=197881729#t197881729|one nonny pointed out]], such advice is woefully insufficient, because nobody //tries// to be one. [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43393.html?thread=197902977#t197902977|Various memers of color]] expressed dislike of the term “chromatic.” There was a minor bit of FFA followup [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/43702.html?thread=198075062#t198075062|here]], as well as [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=711984#t711984|a _coal thread]].
   * _coal, as is its wont, complained about people’s DYW letters. Their debate over [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=493616#t493616|the meaning of “any” in a request letter]] devolved into worldbuilding vs. character wank. Coalies complained that [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=520752#t520752|some people weren’t linking their letters in their signup comments]], which led to snark about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=526384#t526384|one recip]] who asked for hetfic of a canon gay character and [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=532784#t532784|another]] who was angling for issuefic (further discussion of the latter topic [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=728112#t728112|here]]). There was a complaint about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=559408#t559408|slash requests bashing canonical female love interests]]. Finally, there was the [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=589616#t589616|“2012 bad letter collection” thread]] and [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=771376#t771376|“Worst DYW letters, Round Two.”]]   * _coal, as is its wont, complained about people’s DYW letters. Their debate over [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=493616#t493616|the meaning of “any” in a request letter]] devolved into worldbuilding vs. character wank. Coalies complained that [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=520752#t520752|some people weren’t linking their letters in their signup comments]], which led to snark about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=526384#t526384|one recip]] who asked for hetfic of a canon gay character and [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=532784#t532784|another]] who was angling for issuefic (further discussion of the latter topic [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=728112#t728112|here]]). There was a complaint about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=559408#t559408|slash requests bashing canonical female love interests]]. Finally, there was the [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=589616#t589616|“2012 bad letter collection” thread]] and [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=771376#t771376|“Worst DYW letters, Round Two.”]]
-  * _coal talked about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=460336#t460336|people to avoid]]. The names that came up were [[w/page/101645944/Perennial%20Yuletide%20Wankers#KittydeSade|Kitty deSade]], [[w/page/101645944/Perennial%20Yuletide%20Wankers#Wook77|wook77]], and whoever wrote the [[w/page/49192965/Yuletide%20Wanks%20by%20Year#GayBashingDragonFicWank|“Gay Bashing Dragon Fic.”]] In a separate thread, about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=561200#t561200|changing one’s offers in order to avoid someone]], a wank over how [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=564784#t564784|writing someone porn or asking them for porn could trigger them]] broke out; [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=585776#t585776|a reprise]] titled “LOL @ all of the sanctimonious gen lovers in this post” popped up in a separate thread.+  * _coal talked about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=460336#t460336|people to avoid]]. The names that came up were [[perennial-yuletide-wankers#kitty-de-sade|Kitty deSade]], [[perennial-yuletide-wankers#wook77|wook77]], and whoever wrote the “Gay Bashing Dragon Fic.” In a separate thread, about [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=561200#t561200|changing one’s offers in order to avoid someone]], a wank over how [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=564784#t564784|writing someone porn or asking them for porn could trigger them]] broke out; [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=585776#t585776|a reprise]] titled “LOL @ all of the sanctimonious gen lovers in this post” popped up in a separate thread.
   * Coalies snarked the [[http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1094000.html|Misses Clause Challenge]] for [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=607024#t607024|the misspelling in the title]], its [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=608816#t608816|Christian-centrism]], [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=619824#t619824|cissexist language from the mods]] that the mods themselves downplayed, and [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=630064#t630064|their Bechdel test criteria]].   * Coalies snarked the [[http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1094000.html|Misses Clause Challenge]] for [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=607024#t607024|the misspelling in the title]], its [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=608816#t608816|Christian-centrism]], [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=619824#t619824|cissexist language from the mods]] that the mods themselves downplayed, and [[http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/2096.html?thread=630064#t630064|their Bechdel test criteria]].
   * Minor wank, basically griping, over what constitutes “fandoms.” In late September one nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/40981.html?thread=187396117#t187396117|asked]], //“Should I nominate FFA as a Yuletide fandom?”// Some nonnies approved; others called this idea [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/40981.html?thread=187396629#t187396629|//“twee and gross”//]] and [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/40981.html?thread=187531797#t187531797|asked]] whether the ATRT wanted //“Yuletide full of any self-satisfied lj comm (or whatever tumblrs organise themselves into) asking for fic of its injokes?”// The nonny ignored the naysayers, and as a result 2012 was the first year [[w/page/66979893/FFA%20RPF|FFA RPF]] was nominated as a Yuletide fandom and had fics written for it. In another post, a nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/41415.html?thread=188657351#t188657351|confessed to the urge to troll]] by nominating //“my favorite letters of the alphabet as my fandoms and then spend the next three months berating people and making fun of their letters and starting as much wank as I possibly can."// They were [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/41415.html?thread=188671687#t188671687|told]], //“Why force it? It’s Yuletide. The wank will come.”//   * Minor wank, basically griping, over what constitutes “fandoms.” In late September one nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/40981.html?thread=187396117#t187396117|asked]], //“Should I nominate FFA as a Yuletide fandom?”// Some nonnies approved; others called this idea [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/40981.html?thread=187396629#t187396629|//“twee and gross”//]] and [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/40981.html?thread=187531797#t187531797|asked]] whether the ATRT wanted //“Yuletide full of any self-satisfied lj comm (or whatever tumblrs organise themselves into) asking for fic of its injokes?”// The nonny ignored the naysayers, and as a result 2012 was the first year [[w/page/66979893/FFA%20RPF|FFA RPF]] was nominated as a Yuletide fandom and had fics written for it. In another post, a nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/41415.html?thread=188657351#t188657351|confessed to the urge to troll]] by nominating //“my favorite letters of the alphabet as my fandoms and then spend the next three months berating people and making fun of their letters and starting as much wank as I possibly can."// They were [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/41415.html?thread=188671687#t188671687|told]], //“Why force it? It’s Yuletide. The wank will come.”//
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