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  — [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/94889.html?thread=463129001#cmt463129001|July 12, 2014]]  — [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/94889.html?thread=463129001#cmt463129001|July 12, 2014]]
  
-[[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Fawatson|Florence A. Watson]] and [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Greer_Watson|Greer Watson]] are sisters who have been in fandom for decades. They are best known on meme for their involvement in “Gay Bashing Dragon Fic Wank” during Yuletide 2011, which you can read about [[w/page/49192965/Yuletide|on our “Yuletide” page]]. For ten years, until it went on hiatus in January 2015, they were also heavily involved with the [[maryrenaultfics.livejournal.com|Mary Renault Fics]] (MRF) community on LiveJournal, a/k/a “Mary's Handmaidens” (no, seriously). It should be noted, however, that //“[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/119610.html?thread=613158458#cmt613158458|The Watsons weren't mods there]], they were just part of the 'approved' inner circle that passed muster with the mods, and white-knighted for some of the comm's policies when they were criticized.”//+[[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Fawatson|Florence A. Watson]] and [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Greer_Watson|Greer Watson]] are sisters who have been in fandom for decades. They are best known on meme for their involvement in “Gay Bashing Dragon Fic Wank” during Yuletide 2011, which you can read about [[yuletide-wanks-2011-2013|on our “Yuletide” page]]. For ten years, until it went on hiatus in January 2015, they were also heavily involved with the [[http://maryrenaultfics.livejournal.com|Mary Renault Fics]] (MRF) community on LiveJournal, a/k/a “Mary's Handmaidens” (no, seriously). It should be noted, however, that //“[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/119610.html?thread=613158458#cmt613158458|The Watsons weren't mods there]], they were just part of the 'approved' inner circle that passed muster with the mods, and white-knighted for some of the comm's policies when they were criticized.”//
  
-One of the [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/49638.html?thread=228095974#t228095974|earliest discussions]] of the Watsons and their comm that can be found on [[w/page/66979830/Dememe%20Nonny|Dememe]] started in a February 2013 thread titled “Love the canon, hate/fear the fandom.” [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/49638.html?thread=228364006#t228364006|One nonny:]] //“Yep, the unwelcoming closed-off elitist book fandom par excellence.”// Another [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/49638.html?thread=228111078#t228111078|summarized MRF thus]]: //“They're anti graphic sex and violence because apparently it pollutes the sanctity of the original works and makes you into a certain type of person. The whole fandom is just really odd and unwelcoming especially if you don't like the right people.”//+One of the [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/49638.html?thread=228095974#t228095974|earliest discussions]] of the Watsons and their comm that can be found on [[Dememe-Nonny|Dememe]] started in a February 2013 thread titled “Love the canon, hate/fear the fandom.” [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/49638.html?thread=228364006#t228364006|One nonny:]] //“Yep, the unwelcoming closed-off elitist book fandom par excellence.”// Another [[http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/49638.html?thread=228111078#t228111078|summarized MRF thus]]: //“They're anti graphic sex and violence because apparently it pollutes the sanctity of the original works and makes you into a certain type of person. The whole fandom is just really odd and unwelcoming especially if you don't like the right people.”//
  
 That nonny linked to [[http://maryrenaultfics.livejournal.com/258099.html|this 2009 post on MRF by my_cnnr]], which provides an overview of the mods’ exacting requirements for membership and standards for community participation. Notably, my_cnnr expressed the wish that Renault’s characters “not fall prey to manipulation by those with less commitment to Renault’s ideals than to their own gratification.” That nonny linked to [[http://maryrenaultfics.livejournal.com/258099.html|this 2009 post on MRF by my_cnnr]], which provides an overview of the mods’ exacting requirements for membership and standards for community participation. Notably, my_cnnr expressed the wish that Renault’s characters “not fall prey to manipulation by those with less commitment to Renault’s ideals than to their own gratification.”
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 Three days later, [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/120047.html?thread=615084015#cmt615084015|a nonny linked]] to [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Maryrenaultfics_Banners|the Fanlore page for “maryrenaultfics Banners.”]] At the time of the FFA thread, the top of of the Fanlore page said, “These banners are created by my_cnnr, one of the moderators of the community, who would prefer that copies of the images not appear here.” Someone, presumably my_cnnr, removed the art without explanation, but later they were restored, and Greer commented that my_cnnr had been OK with the banners being posted to Fanlore back in 2010. Meanwhile, on MRF2, [[http://maryrenaultfics2.dreamwidth.org/919.html|Greer put up a post]] crediting my_cnnr with the banner creation — and totally ignoring my_cnnr complaining several times in comments about the banner being used there at all. Three days later, [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/120047.html?thread=615084015#cmt615084015|a nonny linked]] to [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Maryrenaultfics_Banners|the Fanlore page for “maryrenaultfics Banners.”]] At the time of the FFA thread, the top of of the Fanlore page said, “These banners are created by my_cnnr, one of the moderators of the community, who would prefer that copies of the images not appear here.” Someone, presumably my_cnnr, removed the art without explanation, but later they were restored, and Greer commented that my_cnnr had been OK with the banners being posted to Fanlore back in 2010. Meanwhile, on MRF2, [[http://maryrenaultfics2.dreamwidth.org/919.html|Greer put up a post]] crediting my_cnnr with the banner creation — and totally ignoring my_cnnr complaining several times in comments about the banner being used there at all.
  
-On Mar. 10, 2015, [[http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/594318.html|Naraht posted]] about [[w/page/86076616/Bad%20Bang|Bad Bang]]. Greer [[http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/594318.html?thread=6367630|felt the need to come into the thread]] and muse about how much FFA dislikes her, considering her and FA to be “assholes” (which [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/127792.html?thread=661347632#cmt661347632|the nonny bringing this discussion to meme]] concurred with). Another nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/127792.html?thread=661355312#cmt661355312|pointed out]], //“Notice how no one [on Naraht’s thread] said, no Greer, you and your sister aren't assholes.”//+On Mar. 10, 2015, [[http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/594318.html|Naraht posted]] about [[Bad-Bang|Bad Bang]]. Greer [[http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/594318.html?thread=6367630|felt the need to come into the thread]] and muse about how much FFA dislikes her, considering her and FA to be “assholes” (which [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/127792.html?thread=661347632#cmt661347632|the nonny bringing this discussion to meme]] concurred with). Another nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/127792.html?thread=661355312#cmt661355312|pointed out]], //“Notice how no one [on Naraht’s thread] said, no Greer, you and your sister aren't assholes.”//
  
  
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