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 The TJLCers initially didn’t object to Toplock itself but to the “Dark Fuck Prince” meme: //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695492192#cmt695492192|“Basically,]] people running away with Sherlock's claim that he's a ‘high-functioning sociopath’ and making him into this cold, dark, rapacious top who hits poor vanilla John's arse like a Category 5 sex hurricane.”// However, //“the vast majority of TJLCers now have their heads shoved so far up their asses that they think all toplock is DFP.”// (Another nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695728736#cmt695728736|picturesquely described them]] as //“all joined mouth-to-ass so it's one long chain of spewing their shit into each other's mouths.”)// The TJLCers initially didn’t object to Toplock itself but to the “Dark Fuck Prince” meme: //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695492192#cmt695492192|“Basically,]] people running away with Sherlock's claim that he's a ‘high-functioning sociopath’ and making him into this cold, dark, rapacious top who hits poor vanilla John's arse like a Category 5 sex hurricane.”// However, //“the vast majority of TJLCers now have their heads shoved so far up their asses that they think all toplock is DFP.”// (Another nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695728736#cmt695728736|picturesquely described them]] as //“all joined mouth-to-ass so it's one long chain of spewing their shit into each other's mouths.”)//
  
-The 221b Con wank was foreshadowed in the wank around Sherlock Seattle 2015, held in January. Per [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134016.html?thread=699575424#cmt699575424|this nonny]], who links to several relevant [[http://kinklock.tumblr.com|Kinklock posts]],{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FHVswK%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2F8BrWN%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Flp69t%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FWwIGs%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fl925O}} Grace's crowd was buttdevastated that Archia, Michi, BNF Emma Grant, and fanartist Rutobuka hosted a panel they'd wanted to host themselves. Their response was to throw around accusations of "rape apologism," call their nemeses "crusty old has-beens," and wring their hands about "rape kinksters shaping the minds of the young." Another nonny later informs meme that this panel was the [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/137594.html?thread=722638202#cmt722638202|genesis of The JohnLock Possibility (TJLP), to which TJLCers took offense]].+The 221b Con wank was foreshadowed in the wank around Sherlock Seattle 2015, held in January. Per [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134016.html?thread=699575424#cmt699575424|this nonny]], who links to [[https://archive.is/HVswK|several]] [[https://archive.is/8BrWN|relevant]] [[https://archive.is/lp69t|posts]] on [[http://kinklock.tumblr.com|Kinklock]], ([[https://archive.is/WwIGs|so]] [[https://archive.is/l925O|many]]!), Gracee's crowd was buttdevastated that Archia, Michi, BNF Emma Grant, and fanartist Rutobuka hosted a panel they'd wanted to host themselves. Their response was to throw around accusations of "rape apologism," call their nemeses "crusty old has-beens," and wring their hands about "rape kinksters shaping the minds of the young." Another nonny later informs meme that this panel was the [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/137594.html?thread=722638202#cmt722638202|genesis of The JohnLock Possibility (TJLP), to which TJLCers took offense]].
  
-More foreshadowing came in March 2015, when one TJLCer [[http://thexth.tumblr.com/post/112539836501/the-result-and-what-it-deserves-to-look-like|posted photos of the doujin they had just burnt]] {{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2F1riFz}} after realizing it contained dubcon. [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698113951#cmt698113951|Nonnies discussed this]], pointing out that [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698283935#cmt698283935|the artist benefited from this act]] because of the money spent on the book, and that even though physical books are overvalued and the fan had every right to burn the copy they owned,+More foreshadowing came in March 2015, when one TJLCer [[http://thexth.tumblr.com/post/112539836501/the-result-and-what-it-deserves-to-look-like|posted photos of the doujin they had just burnt]] ((https://archive.is/1riFz)) after realizing it contained dubcon. [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698113951#cmt698113951|Nonnies discussed this]], pointing out that [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698283935#cmt698283935|the artist benefited from this act]] because of the money spent on the book, and that even though physical books are overvalued and the fan had every right to burn the copy they owned,
  
 //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698351263#cmt698351263|That doesn't make book burning a value neutral act]], or one that doesn't have specific symbolic weight… It's one thing to disagree with art, and another thing to publicly deface or destroy it to make your point. That's making very specific statements about censorship and moral guardianship that people rightly find very uncomfortable and worrying.// //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698351263#cmt698351263|That doesn't make book burning a value neutral act]], or one that doesn't have specific symbolic weight… It's one thing to disagree with art, and another thing to publicly deface or destroy it to make your point. That's making very specific statements about censorship and moral guardianship that people rightly find very uncomfortable and worrying.//
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 Back on FFA, [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/132985.html?thread=693623673#cmt693623673|another nonny]] linked to [[http://tumblr.selkie.net/post/116404753313/bullying-and-kinkshaming-and-221b-con-enough-is|a post by //Sherlock// fan Roane72]], who was not at the GP panel but said, Back on FFA, [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/132985.html?thread=693623673#cmt693623673|another nonny]] linked to [[http://tumblr.selkie.net/post/116404753313/bullying-and-kinkshaming-and-221b-con-enough-is|a post by //Sherlock// fan Roane72]], who was not at the GP panel but said,
  
-I’ve experienced this sort of harassment firsthand from the exact same group of people, and I’ve watched them do it others. They’ve formed a pattern, and their behavior is escalating. … Several people overheard a group of artists and some well-known //Sherlock// fandom trolls and troublemakers literally plan to go into [the Gender Politics and the Mary Morstan] panels for the sole purpose of trying to fuck them up. They were targeting one person in particular for the GP panel.{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FVVgxK}}+//I’ve experienced this sort of harassment firsthand from the exact same group of people, and I’ve watched them do it others. They’ve formed a pattern, and their behavior is escalating. … Several people overheard a group of artists and some well-known //Sherlock// fandom trolls and troublemakers literally plan to go into [the Gender Politics and the Mary Morstan] panels for the sole purpose of trying to fuck them up. They were targeting one person in particular for the GP panel.//((http://web.archive.org/web/20180412201446/http://tumblr.selkie.net/post/116404753313/bullying-and-kinkshaming-and-221b-con-enough-is))
  
-That person was Michi/Traumachu, who was moderating the panel. After she [[http://traumachu.tumblr.com/post/116468532949/michi-please-be-careful-these-people-are|replied to an ask]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fd1myu}} warning her to be careful ([[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=694837856#cmt694837856|FFA discussion]]) — “These people are considering going on some crusade to start reporting people THEY deem rapists or pedophiles to the police now” — she followed up with [[http://traumachu.tumblr.com/post/116469030779/on-fandom-bullying-and-respectful-spaces|her account of what happened at the GP panel]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FcFYtr}}:+That person was Michi/Traumachu, who was moderating the panel. After she [[http://traumachu.tumblr.com/post/116468532949/michi-please-be-careful-these-people-are|replied to an ask]]((https://archive.is/d1myu)) warning her to be careful ([[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=694837856#cmt694837856|FFA discussion]]) — “These people are considering going on some crusade to start reporting people THEY deem rapists or pedophiles to the police now” — she followed up with [[http://traumachu.tumblr.com/post/116469030779/on-fandom-bullying-and-respectful-spaces|her account of what happened at the GP panel]]((https://archive.is/cFYtr))
  
 [R]ather than being able to give [her fellow panelists] the credit they deserve for their amazing work and perspectives, I am instead forced to preserve their anonymity to save them from harassment. There was talk of blogs calling for the doxxing of the 221B Con organizers. [R]ather than being able to give [her fellow panelists] the credit they deserve for their amazing work and perspectives, I am instead forced to preserve their anonymity to save them from harassment. There was talk of blogs calling for the doxxing of the 221B Con organizers.
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 ====== TheGreenIrene’s account of the panel ====== ====== TheGreenIrene’s account of the panel ======
  
-The panelist who broke down and cried is a fan who cosplays Irene Adler in a green dress. To protect her privacy, she [[http://thegreenirene.tumblr.com/post/116696525144/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|created a separate Tumblr account named "TheGreenIrene"]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FHvb01}} to discuss the events at the GP panel from her perspective. (Nonnies discussed her post [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=697223264#cmt697223264|here]], [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697224131#cmt697224131|here]], and [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=697523103#cmt697523103|here]].)+The panelist who broke down and cried is a fan who cosplays Irene Adler in a green dress. To protect her privacy, she [[http://thegreenirene.tumblr.com/post/116696525144/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|created a separate Tumblr account named "TheGreenIrene"]]((https://archive.is/Hvb01)) to discuss the events at the GP panel from her perspective. (Nonnies discussed her post [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=697223264#cmt697223264|here]], [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697224131#cmt697224131|here]], and [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=697523103#cmt697523103|here]].)
  
 Irene applied to be on the panel “because I am passionate about feminism, about queer theory, about fandom.” Quoting her panelist application, she notes it does not mention noncon fanworks "because [that] wasn’t supposed to be the topic of the panel.” Once it came up, "a group of people sitting at the front of the room derailed the discussion and kept it on the topic of rape/non-con in erotic fanworks for probably forty-fifty minutes of a panel that was only supposed to be an hour’s duration (we went over time)." Irene applied to be on the panel “because I am passionate about feminism, about queer theory, about fandom.” Quoting her panelist application, she notes it does not mention noncon fanworks "because [that] wasn’t supposed to be the topic of the panel.” Once it came up, "a group of people sitting at the front of the room derailed the discussion and kept it on the topic of rape/non-con in erotic fanworks for probably forty-fifty minutes of a panel that was only supposed to be an hour’s duration (we went over time)."
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 (Note that although the above nonny mistakenly identified said "dude" as white, due to having only seen his hair, [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=696454496#cmt696454496|he is in fact not white]].) (Note that although the above nonny mistakenly identified said "dude" as white, due to having only seen his hair, [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=696454496#cmt696454496|he is in fact not white]].)
  
-Either this nonny or another who attended the con [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695936608#cmt695936608|reported]] that they left not long after he asked his question. //"[G]lad I did as I heard someone ask why they call it non-con and not rapefic and someone sneered TO KEEP IT SEXY before the door shut behind me."// Judging by [[http://sidryan.tumblr.com/post/116448949097/who-sarcastically-called-out-to-keep-it-sexy|this ]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FBdstL}}[[http://sidryan.tumblr.com/post/116449716497/graceebooks-replied-to-your-post-who|exchange]],{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FprshM}} that snide comment probably came from Grace.+Either this nonny or another who attended the con [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695936608#cmt695936608|reported]] that they left not long after he asked his question. //"[G]lad I did as I heard someone ask why they call it non-con and not rapefic and someone sneered TO KEEP IT SEXY before the door shut behind me."// Judging by [[http://sidryan.tumblr.com/post/116448949097/who-sarcastically-called-out-to-keep-it-sexy|this]]((https://archive.is/BdstL)) [[http://sidryan.tumblr.com/post/116449716497/graceebooks-replied-to-your-post-who|exchange]]((https://archive.is/prshM)), that snide comment probably came from Gracee.
  
 Finally, a nonny who watched the video while it was still up said, Finally, a nonny who watched the video while it was still up said,
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 ====== Graceebooks’ responses ====== ====== Graceebooks’ responses ======
  
-[[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116573365817/in-which-i-finally-talk-about-the-tjlc-panel-at|Grace's initial post]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FQyEzO}} about 2221b Con was [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695517280#cmt695517280|described thus on meme]]: //"There is not a single apology in that long ass post. A list of excuses. A refusal to acknowledge the widespread hurt she and her sycophants cause. Trying to make her victims respond to her (an implying that if they don't, THEY are being the unreasonable ones). I hope none of them respond, she's being completely disingenuous."//+[[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116573365817/in-which-i-finally-talk-about-the-tjlc-panel-at|Gracee's initial post]]((https://archive.is/QyEzO)) about 2221b Con was [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695517280#cmt695517280|described thus on meme]]: //"There is not a single apology in that long ass post. A list of excuses. A refusal to acknowledge the widespread hurt she and her sycophants cause. Trying to make her victims respond to her (an implying that if they don't, THEY are being the unreasonable ones). I hope none of them respond, she's being completely disingenuous."//
  
 Another nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695528288#cmt695528288|wrote]], //"As one of her victims (who wasn't acknowledged in that post) I am literally sick to my stomach. That is the most classic example of gaslighting I have ever seen in my life. I do not believe for one second that she's acting in good faith. She's not sorry. She's sorry she's getting shit now for what she's been doing all along.”// Another nonny [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695528288#cmt695528288|wrote]], //"As one of her victims (who wasn't acknowledged in that post) I am literally sick to my stomach. That is the most classic example of gaslighting I have ever seen in my life. I do not believe for one second that she's acting in good faith. She's not sorry. She's sorry she's getting shit now for what she's been doing all along.”//
  
-Grace's response to Michi/Traumachu was to [[http://traumachu.tumblr.com/post/116474268084/im-sorry-did-you-expect-me-to-just-silently|accuse her of accusing Grace of things]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FQfVvs}} that Michi had not, in fact, accused Grace of. ([[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697489859#cmt697489859|FFA discussion.]]) It is worth noting that Grace has used this strategy more than once. [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116595615857/also-like-you-are-trash-if-you-use-me-wanting-kids|Here]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2F6k3xQ}}, alluding to how she had not-at-//all// creepily used Leelah Alcorn's suicide as an excuse to invite trans* teenagers to stay at her place (see [[gracees-minions|Gracee's Minions]]), she implies that people criticizing her for this have hinted that she molests minors. Nobody on FFA, at least, has ever made such a claim; the criticism is that this is one way to put kids in her debt and make them easier to manipulate as pawns in her fandom wars. [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698664607#cmt698664607|A nonny points out]] the massive amount of projection in that post as well, as Grace and her crowd //have// been accusing others of victimizing children.+Grace's response to Michi/Traumachu was to [[http://traumachu.tumblr.com/post/116474268084/im-sorry-did-you-expect-me-to-just-silently|accuse her of accusing Gracee of things]]((https://archive.is/QfVvs)) that Michi had not, in fact, accused Gracee of. ([[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697489859#cmt697489859|FFA discussion.]]) It is worth noting that Gracee has used this strategy more than once. [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116595615857/also-like-you-are-trash-if-you-use-me-wanting-kids|Here]]((https://archive.is/6k3xQ)), alluding to how she had not-at-//all// creepily used Leelah Alcorn's suicide as an excuse to invite trans* teenagers to stay at her place (see [[gracees-minions|Gracee's Minions]]), she implies that people criticizing her for this have hinted that she molests minors. Nobody on FFA, at least, has ever made such a claim; the criticism is that this is one way to put kids in her debt and make them easier to manipulate as pawns in her fandom wars. [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=698664607#cmt698664607|A nonny points out]] the massive amount of projection in that post as well, as Grace and her crowd //have// been accusing others of victimizing children.
  
-And [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116726690702/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|her response to Irene]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FgLFEM}} was a marvel of passive-aggressive outrage and "How could you do this to me" high dudgeon that attacks Irene's character and attempts to "rebut" facts with outright lies:+And [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116726690702/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|her response to Irene]]((https://archive.is/gLFEM)) was a marvel of passive-aggressive outrage and "How could you do this to me" high dudgeon that attacks Irene's character and attempts to "rebut" facts with outright lies:
  
-This is one of the most egregious hatchet jobs I have ever read in my entire life. How can you possibly ask others to vouch for your character, to agree that you are a conscientious person of all things, when you have created a post - strike that, created a blog - specifically for the purpose of demonizing me as a person, assigning the absolute most egregious possible motivation and characterization to every choice I and anyone who has ever expressed affection or support of me has ever made with regard to 221B Con? How can you think you are posting something meaningful and credible at all when you are explicitly justifying my banning from the convention by citing a list of things I did not not do? How can you expect people to see this anonymous, newly-created-for-this-specific-purpose blog and give you the benefit of the doubt as to the reasons for that choice when you are so unbelievably unwilling to give the benefit of the doubt to any of our choices or intentions whatsoever? This is unbelievably hard and unfeeling.+//This is one of the most egregious hatchet jobs I have ever read in my entire life. How can you possibly ask others to vouch for your character, to agree that you are a conscientious person of all things, when you have created a post - strike that, created a blog - specifically for the purpose of demonizing me as a person, assigning the absolute most egregious possible motivation and characterization to every choice I and anyone who has ever expressed affection or support of me has ever made with regard to 221B Con? How can you think you are posting something meaningful and credible at all when you are explicitly justifying my banning from the convention by citing a list of things I did not not do? How can you expect people to see this anonymous, newly-created-for-this-specific-purpose blog and give you the benefit of the doubt as to the reasons for that choice when you are so unbelievably unwilling to give the benefit of the doubt to any of our choices or intentions whatsoever? This is unbelievably hard and unfeeling.
  
-….I truly hope that you all are able to access enough healing and self esteem someday to realize that you don’t have to eradicate people and viewpoints you don’t agree with off the fucking planet in order to feel secure in yourself and your own perspective. Cheers.+….I truly hope that you all are able to access enough healing and self esteem someday to realize that you don’t have to eradicate people and viewpoints you don’t agree with off the fucking planet in order to feel secure in yourself and your own perspective. Cheers.//
  
-Nonnies [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697427139#cmt697427139|discussed]] Grace’s reply to Irene in detail. At least one [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=697851295#cmt697851295|considers Grace's last paragraph]] to be //"a dig at thegreenirene for being a survivor of child sex abuse."// [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697447619#cmt697447619|This comment]] provides a long, blunt, point-by-point rebuttal, for those who want one, ending with //"I think her response actually reveals how hard she's trying to twist events to paint herself in a better light."// [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116726690702/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|This nonny]] specifically rebuts Grace's claim that the video was perfectly legal. But [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=697576607#cmt697576607|this one]] probably sums it up best:+Nonnies [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697427139#cmt697427139|discussed]] Gracee’s reply to Irene in detail. At least one [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=697851295#cmt697851295|considers Gracee's last paragraph]] to be //"a dig at thegreenirene for being a survivor of child sex abuse."// [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697447619#cmt697447619|This comment]] provides a long, blunt, point-by-point rebuttal, for those who want one, ending with //"I think her response actually reveals how hard she's trying to twist events to paint herself in a better light."// [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116726690702/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|This nonny]] specifically rebuts Grace's claim that the video was perfectly legal. But [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133791.html?thread=697576607#cmt697576607|this one]] probably sums it up best:
  
 //Grace's reply is more of the usual "But what about ME? I'm the victim! I have done nothing!"// //Grace's reply is more of the usual "But what about ME? I'm the victim! I have done nothing!"//
  
-In a later post, [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116733776467/how-the-fuck-can-we-have-this-conversation-when|Grace writes]], {{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FrchLI}} "how the fuck can we have this conversation when these people have no qualms whatsoever about telling and “confirming” blatant, utter, complete, wholesale-invented lies?" [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697472451#cmt697472451|Nonny:]] //"It's a conspiracy, clearly!"//+In a later post, [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116733776467/how-the-fuck-can-we-have-this-conversation-when|Grace writes]]((https://archive.is/rchLI)), "how the fuck can we have this conversation when these people have no qualms whatsoever about telling and “confirming” blatant, utter, complete, wholesale-invented lies?" [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697472451#cmt697472451|Nonny:]] //"It's a conspiracy, clearly!"//
  
 ====== Hypocrisy ====== ====== Hypocrisy ======
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 ====== The Bannination ====== ====== The Bannination ======
  
-On Thursday, April 16, Grace [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116598609712|posted a screenshot]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fl12BQ}} of an email from 221b Con's organizers: "Due to a number of complaints about your behavior at 221B Con 2015, the Board of Directors has decided that you will not be allowed to register for our future events." Nonnies discussed it [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695825504#cmt695825504|here]]. It is likely to be true:+On Thursday, April 16, Gracee [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116598609712|posted a screenshot]]((https://archive.is/l12BQ)) of an email from 221b Con's organizers: "Due to a number of complaints about your behavior at 221B Con 2015, the Board of Directors has decided that you will not be allowed to register for our future events." Nonnies discussed it [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695825504#cmt695825504|here]]. It is likely to be true:
  
 //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695838048#cmt695838048|My friend and I went to the con,]] and this has been playing on her anxiety enough that she e-mailed the directors about graceebooks et al. earlier (whereas I've just been keeping my head down). So I'd assume that others have done the same, and therefore that this is genuine, since the con runners are pretty proactive about feedback. Last year one panel in particular drew a lot of complaints (the trans issues one, iirc?), but seems to have done much better this year.// //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133216.html?thread=695838048#cmt695838048|My friend and I went to the con,]] and this has been playing on her anxiety enough that she e-mailed the directors about graceebooks et al. earlier (whereas I've just been keeping my head down). So I'd assume that others have done the same, and therefore that this is genuine, since the con runners are pretty proactive about feedback. Last year one panel in particular drew a lot of complaints (the trans issues one, iirc?), but seems to have done much better this year.//
  
-In her disingenuous response to TheGreenIrene (discussed above under "Grace's responses"), Grace claimed that her banning was because+In her disingenuous response to TheGreenIrene (discussed above under "Grace's responses"), Gracee claimed that her banning was because
  
-people hate me so much more intensely and violently than is even remotely justified that my very existence itself is enough to make them angry. You say: “You can, as the excerpted blog says, intimidate with your mere presence.” ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You are openly advocating the idea that it is intimidating and inappropriate FOR ME TO EXIST AND ATTEND FANDOM EVENTS.+//people hate me so much more intensely and violently than is even remotely justified that my very existence itself is enough to make them angry. You say: “You can, as the excerpted blog says, intimidate with your mere presence.” ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You are openly advocating the idea that it is intimidating and inappropriate FOR ME TO EXIST AND ATTEND FANDOM EVENTS.//
  
 [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697450947#cmt697450947|Nonny:]] //"Her newest tack: Being barred from a con means they literally want her to not exist!"// [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=697450947#cmt697450947|Nonny:]] //"Her newest tack: Being barred from a con means they literally want her to not exist!"//
  
-Grace emailed the BoD back, asking them "earnestly" what she might have done to get banned from the con. [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/117015041962/graceebooks-doesnt-this-seem-like-an-email|As of April 21 they have not answered her]],{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FbzMwy}} and //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701042107#cmt701042107|"She is **pressed**."]]// She has apparently //“[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701072315#cmt701072315|self-reblogged that same post at least 4 times]] since she posted it.”// (She also //“[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701079739#cmt701079739|reblogged her banning email]] like 40 some times in two minutes.”//)+Grace emailed the BoD back, asking them "earnestly" what she might have done to get banned from the con. [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/117015041962/graceebooks-doesnt-this-seem-like-an-email|As of April 21 they have not answered her]]((https://archive.is/bzMwy)), and //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701042107#cmt701042107|"She is **pressed**."]]// She has apparently //“[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701072315#cmt701072315|self-reblogged that same post at least 4 times]] since she posted it.”// (She also //“[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701079739#cmt701079739|reblogged her banning email]] like 40 some times in two minutes.”//)
  
-On April 19, Joolabee [[http://futchcassidy.tumblr.com/post/116762523748/what-if-we-just-turned-it-around-and-did|posted]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FulGI2}}, "what if we just turned it around and did everything in our power to ban roane from the con". This refers to Roane72, for whom Grace & Co have [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701828539#cmt701828539|a serious]] [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701867195#cmt701867195|hateboner]]. ([[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701714107#cmt701714107|Meme discussion.]]) They got a reply from a user named [[http://pyrotope.tumblr.com/|Pyrotope]]: "That's my plan". (They got another reply from [[http://abundantlyqueer.tumblr.com/post/117088492264/joolaweed-what-if-we-just-turned-it-around-and|abundantlyqueer]]*{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fi0To2}}: "why don’t you get her to film people at a con without their knowledge or permission, while they discuss really sensitive, intimate stuff, and then get her to put it on the internet. surely that would be enough to get anyone banned.")+On April 19, Joolabee [[http://futchcassidy.tumblr.com/post/116762523748/what-if-we-just-turned-it-around-and-did|posted]]((https://archive.is/ulGI2)), "what if we just turned it around and did everything in our power to ban roane from the con". This refers to Roane72, for whom Gracee & Co have [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701828539#cmt701828539|a serious]] [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701867195#cmt701867195|hateboner]]. ([[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701714107#cmt701714107|Meme discussion.]]) They got a reply from a user named [[http://pyrotope.tumblr.com/|Pyrotope]]: "That's my plan". (They got another reply from [[http://abundantlyqueer.tumblr.com/post/117088492264/joolaweed-what-if-we-just-turned-it-around-and|abundantlyqueer]]*((https://archive.is/i0To2)): "why don’t you get her to film people at a con without their knowledge or permission, while they discuss really sensitive, intimate stuff, and then get her to put it on the internet. surely that would be enough to get anyone banned.")
  
-The Video+====== The Video ======
  
-The sequence of events seems to be that the iPad which was used to record the video of the panel belonged to Vellium, who lent it to Ivorylungs and then left the room. Ivorylungs [[http://ivorylungs.tumblr.com/post/116743711200|admits to having recorded the panel]]*{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2F67.media.tumblr.com%2Ff76bf4e883759bf690a6c338201398c7%2Ftumblr_obpzn9H6QP1vd3pc1o1_1280.png}}:+The sequence of events seems to be that the iPad which was used to record the video of the panel belonged to Vellium, who lent it to Ivorylungs and then left the room. Ivorylungs [[http://ivorylungs.tumblr.com/post/116743711200|admits to having recorded the panel]]*((https://67.media.tumblr.com/f76bf4e883759bf690a6c338201398c7/tumblr_obpzn9H6QP1vd3pc1o1_1280.png)):
  
-I guess i need to say this again? I am the one who recorded the video… on a giant ass ipad that was not ‘snuck’ in…. there were plenty of people around me and i know one of the con staff members sitting near the door had a VERY clear shot and did nothing about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯+//I guess i need to say this again? I am the one who recorded the video… on a giant ass ipad that was not ‘snuck’ in…. there were plenty of people around me and i know one of the con staff members sitting near the door had a VERY clear shot and did nothing about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ //
  
-(On a side note, Katzensprotte/Falka [[http://egglestrade.tumblr.com/post/116743966794/ivorylungs-i-guess-i-need-to-say-this-again-i|claims in her tags]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FDR7CU}} to her reblog of that post, “#also no one had intentions of uploading it until people tried to drag us through the mud by lying about what happened #and i know no one in that room or on that panel would have tried to set the record straight for us lol")+(On a side note, Katzensprotte/Falka [[http://egglestrade.tumblr.com/post/116743966794/ivorylungs-i-guess-i-need-to-say-this-again-i|claims in her tags]]((https://archive.is/DR7CU)) to her reblog of that post, “#also no one had intentions of uploading it until people tried to drag us through the mud by lying about what happened #and i know no one in that room or on that panel would have tried to set the record straight for us lol")
  
-When Vellium got the iPad back from Ivorylungs, they asked Grace, ”[[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116424029852/grace-do-you-want-me-to-upload-the-video-i-was|Do you want me to upload the video [to YouTube]?]]”{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FU1dDW}} Grace responded with an enthusiastic “YES,” then posted the video once it was uploaded — ensuring that it would reach a much wider viewership — with [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116442700702/horrifying|the comment “horrifying]]."{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fqr0hw}} (//Ed. note: because the video was removed from YT, all that's left is the comment. From [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/archive/2015/04|Gracee's archive page]], you can tell it's a video post.//)+When Vellium got the iPad back from Ivorylungs, they asked Gracee, ”[[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116424029852/grace-do-you-want-me-to-upload-the-video-i-was|Do you want me to upload the video [to YouTube]?]]”((https://archive.is/U1dDW)) Gracee responded with an enthusiastic “YES,” then posted the video once it was uploaded — ensuring that it would reach a much wider viewership — with [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116442700702/horrifying|the comment “horrifying]]."((https://archive.is/qr0hw)) (//Ed. note: because the video was removed from YT, all that's left is the comment. From [[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/archive/2015/04|Gracee's archive page]], you can tell it's a video post.//)
  
 ([[http://plexippa.tumblr.com/post/116732928781/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|Plexippa]] posted a screenshot of the YouTube removal notice, linked at the top of this page under "In a nutshell.") ([[http://plexippa.tumblr.com/post/116732928781/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|Plexippa]] posted a screenshot of the YouTube removal notice, linked at the top of this page under "In a nutshell.")
  
-In her response to Irene, Grace had stated that she neither took nor uploaded the video. [[http://the-keyz-padlock.tumblr.com/post/116735530397/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|Keyz-Padlock]] retorted,+In her response to Irene, Gracee had stated that she neither took nor uploaded the video. [[http://the-keyz-padlock.tumblr.com/post/116735530397/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|Keyz-Padlock]] retorted,
  
-You did, however, request the video be put up by those who had taken it and were the one who posted and promoted the video to Tumblr under the sarcastic title “horrifying”.+//You did, however, request the video be put up by those who had taken it and were the one who posted and promoted the video to Tumblr under the sarcastic title “horrifying”.
  
 “I didn’t take the video. I didn’t upload the video. Oh but I did tell Vellium to upload it and I did promote the video on my blog but it wasn’t ME you guys omg!” “I didn’t take the video. I didn’t upload the video. Oh but I did tell Vellium to upload it and I did promote the video on my blog but it wasn’t ME you guys omg!”
  
-I have no idea why you think this type of response is helping you. It just isn’t. It’s just getting really sad at this point that you respond in such ways. Your arrogance and flippant attitude is disgusting. You continue to make jokes about this. You continue to reblog others’ jokes about this. If you can’t see how you’re digging a bigger hole for yourself, how you are ruining your own credibility, than I don’t know what to tell you.{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FOJWBP}}+I have no idea why you think this type of response is helping you. It just isn’t. It’s just getting really sad at this point that you respond in such ways. Your arrogance and flippant attitude is disgusting. You continue to make jokes about this. You continue to reblog others’ jokes about this. If you can’t see how you’re digging a bigger hole for yourself, how you are ruining your own credibility, than I don’t know what to tell you.//((https://archive.is/OJWBP))
  
-[[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116741834672/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|Grace’s response to Keyz-Padlock]]{{/plugin_helper.php?plugin=footnote&name=No+label&html=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2F7vQOj}} was a marvel of baffled faux-earnestness, asking for “receipts” because “i literally do not know what behavior at the con [the Board of Directors] could be referring to … there seem to be countless people who DO know and just are just keeping the specifics secret. if i knew what i had done, i would better be able to react to what is going on here. thanks!! xx”+[[http://graceebooks.tumblr.com/post/116741834672/what-happened-at-221b-con-2015-the-gender|Gracee’s response to Keyz-Padlock]]((https://archive.is/7vQOj)) was a marvel of baffled faux-earnestness, asking for “receipts” because “i literally do not know what behavior at the con [the Board of Directors] could be referring to … there seem to be countless people who DO know and just are just keeping the specifics secret. if i knew what i had done, i would better be able to react to what is going on here. thanks!! xx”
  
 ====== Nonnies, on harmful ideas being circulated in this wank ====== ====== Nonnies, on harmful ideas being circulated in this wank ======
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   * //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134016.html?thread=700265856#cmt700265856|…it's really fucking sad]] that they think reading something and being into it made their abuse happen/go on longer than it would have otherwise/be worse than it might have been. No, dudes. Your abuse is completely, 100% the fault of the people who abused you and maybe, depending on individual circumstances, there might have been someone who could and should have helped you but didn't, but that person is NOT YOU. And the people behind this shit are PROMOTING this idea on top of blaming other abuse survivors for abuse. They keep coming around to this idea that it's a victim's responsibility to stop abuse. Current victims are responsible if they read the wrong fiction and "let" their abusers hurt them; survivors are responsible if they don't cope appropriately. That's fucked up.//   * //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134016.html?thread=700265856#cmt700265856|…it's really fucking sad]] that they think reading something and being into it made their abuse happen/go on longer than it would have otherwise/be worse than it might have been. No, dudes. Your abuse is completely, 100% the fault of the people who abused you and maybe, depending on individual circumstances, there might have been someone who could and should have helped you but didn't, but that person is NOT YOU. And the people behind this shit are PROMOTING this idea on top of blaming other abuse survivors for abuse. They keep coming around to this idea that it's a victim's responsibility to stop abuse. Current victims are responsible if they read the wrong fiction and "let" their abusers hurt them; survivors are responsible if they don't cope appropriately. That's fucked up.//
  
-In response to [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701733563#cmt701733563|Grace's fetishization of queer men]] (see the "Grace's SJ fails" section of [[Graceebooks|her wiki page]] for more information), a nonny who is a trans man [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701767099#cmt701767099|writes]] that he is on [[http://sugirdaddy.tumblr.com/post/116138601628/masterpost-of-pedophilia-supporters-within-the|sugirdaddy's list of "pedophiles"]] (see "Hypocrisy" on the [[Sherlock 221b Con Wank]] page for more details) — and is also a CSA survivor //“who uses writing as an outlet to deal with the shame and disgust I feel about what happened to me when I was a little boy.”// He continues:+In response to [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701733563#cmt701733563|Gracee's fetishization of queer men]] (see the "Grace's SJ fails" section of [[Graceebooks|her wiki page]] for more information), a nonny who is a trans man [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/134331.html?thread=701767099#cmt701767099|writes]] that he is on [[http://sugirdaddy.tumblr.com/post/116138601628/masterpost-of-pedophilia-supporters-within-the|sugirdaddy's list of "pedophiles"]] (see "Hypocrisy" on the [[Sherlock 221b Con Wank]] page for more details) — and is also a CSA survivor //“who uses writing as an outlet to deal with the shame and disgust I feel about what happened to me when I was a little boy.”// He continues:
  
 //This is just... Icing on the cake, in my opinion. Grace's fetishization of people like me feels like another way for them to silence me. My abuse doesn't matter. The fact they are literally accusing me of being the same as the man who molested doesn't matter. My gender doesn't matter.\\ //This is just... Icing on the cake, in my opinion. Grace's fetishization of people like me feels like another way for them to silence me. My abuse doesn't matter. The fact they are literally accusing me of being the same as the man who molested doesn't matter. My gender doesn't matter.\\
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 ====== Nonnies, on making all fanworks safe for children ====== ====== Nonnies, on making all fanworks safe for children ======
  
-Grace’s trolling of FFA (see [[Graceebooks|her wiki page]] for more details) produced a couple of succinct comments from nonnies about where she and her friends can shove their Helen Lovejoy-esque ideas about fandom.+Gracee’s trolling of FFA (see [[Graceebooks|her wiki page]] for more details) produced a couple of succinct comments from nonnies about where she and her friends can shove their Helen Lovejoy-esque ideas about fandom.
  
 //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=696825795#cmt696825795|...did you join fandom in your twenties or something?]]// //[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/133571.html?thread=696825795#cmt696825795|...did you join fandom in your twenties or something?]]//
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