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 {{http://i.imgur.com/E7Sfq8d.png|Cartoon villain with slash-circle over him}}Among meme's regular trolls is at least one nonny who likes to shake their finger at those who are fans of villainous characters andor who find squeaky-clean characters boring. It is not clear whether such individuals do not fully appreciate that reality is not fiction, do not get that fiction performs specific functions such as catharsis, or are simply trying to stir up wank. They are also suspected of over-the-top moralistic trolling on topics of sexuality.
-**Oct. 16, 2014,** in [[Common%20Threads|"Unpopular Fandom Opinions"]]: //"[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/107927.html?thread=541808023#cmt541808023|Asshole characters are not appealing]] and not lovable despite it all."// With [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/107927.html?thread=541915799#cmt541915799|follow-up]] in the same thread a few hours later: //"I think people who find Steve Rogers boring are ridiculous perma-teenagers who can't get over their obsession with bad boys – either with being one or having sex with one – and if they ever grow the hell up they'll realize a bad boy character is no more or less complex than a good one."//
+**Oct. 16, 2014,** in [[common-threads|"Unpopular Fandom Opinions"]]: //"[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/107927.html?thread=541808023#cmt541808023|Asshole characters are not appealing]] and not lovable despite it all."// With [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/107927.html?thread=541915799#cmt541915799|follow-up]] in the same thread a few hours later: //"I think people who find Steve Rogers boring are ridiculous perma-teenagers who can't get over their obsession with bad boys – either with being one or having sex with one – and if they ever grow the hell up they'll realize a bad boy character is no more or less complex than a good one."//
 Same post, different thread, next day: //"[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/107927.html?thread=542640791#cmt542640791|"So...you want more queer characters being horrible jerks?]] The anti-hero love needs to die. We don't need more of them."//
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 **Nov. 23, 2014:** [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/112881.html?thread=571588849#cmt571588849|This big wank]], mostly over Loki, was a little more nuanced but still contained the dubious assertion of a direct line between fangirls who woobify Loki and people who excuse real-life rapists and abusers. [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/112881.html?thread=572274417#cmt572274417|Nazis were brought up.]]
-**Nov. 25, 2014,** in [[Common%20Threads|"Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon"]]: //"[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/112945.html?thread=573301041#cmt573301041|It's okay people.]] Your favourite villain isn't a real person and their feelings aren't going to be hurt by someone pointing out that they are indeed a bad person. It's not a poor reflection on you that you like a character that is in fact bad and evil."//
+**Nov. 25, 2014,** in [[tywau|"Things You Wouldn't Admit Unanon"]]: //"[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/112945.html?thread=573301041#cmt573301041|It's okay people.]] Your favourite villain isn't a real person and their feelings aren't going to be hurt by someone pointing out that they are indeed a bad person. It's not a poor reflection on you that you like a character that is in fact bad and evil."//
 **Nov. 26, 2014:** //"[[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/113304.html?thread=574860952#cmt574860952|Consolidated villain wank thread.]]"// Not terribly wanky until [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/113304.html?thread=574980248#cmt574980248|AVN decided to concern-troll]] other nonnies that they should woobify more-heroic characters instead of villains.
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-In the next post's [[Common%20Threads|Venting thread]] (also **Feb. 6, 2015**), [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123215.html?thread=632983375#cmt632983375|a nonny complains]] that someone on the previous post had been //"dismissive and weird with me"// because they thought this nonny was someone else. They eventually get [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123215.html?thread=632998991#cmt632998991|this reply]]: //"I wonder if they thought you were me. I once argued something similar to what you did in one of the great villain wank threads of days past. You were better off not engaging with them for a variety of reasons."//
+In the next post's [[common-threads|Venting thread]] (also **Feb. 6, 2015**), [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123215.html?thread=632983375#cmt632983375|a nonny complains]] that someone on the previous post had been //"dismissive and weird with me"// because they thought this nonny was someone else. They eventually get [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123215.html?thread=632998991#cmt632998991|this reply]]: //"I wonder if they thought you were me. I once argued something similar to what you did in one of the great villain wank threads of days past. You were better off not engaging with them for a variety of reasons."//
 A different nonny linked back to that post and noticed that the person who "flew off the handle" about Nazis had done the exact same thing, in the exact same way, during the Nov. 23 wank. [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123215.html?thread=634164303#cmt634164303|Another nonny replied]] that, no, they were not AVN, just opposed to //"literal Nazi apologism."// The previous anon replied,
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 //Go away.//
-**Feb. 9, 2015,** in a thread titled "That time you were [[Overly%20Aggressive%20Anon|OAA]]": [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123518.html?thread=635751294#cmt63575|A nonny complains]] that they keep getting mistaken for AVN and for an anti-kink nonny. //"I just remember those ones in particular because it's funny to me that I get dubbed the 'anti-kink nonny' or 'anti-villain nonny' for whatever reason when I actually get really mad and over the top aggressive at actual anti-kink and anti-villain nonnies when I come across them."// Other nonnies inform them that //"If you act, look, and smell like a troll, you're a troll."//
+**Feb. 9, 2015,** in a thread titled "That time you were [[overly-aggressive-anon|OAA]]": [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123518.html?thread=635751294#cmt63575|A nonny complains]] that they keep getting mistaken for AVN and for an anti-kink nonny. //"I just remember those ones in particular because it's funny to me that I get dubbed the 'anti-kink nonny' or 'anti-villain nonny' for whatever reason when I actually get really mad and over the top aggressive at actual anti-kink and anti-villain nonnies when I come across them."// Other nonnies inform them that //"If you act, look, and smell like a troll, you're a troll."//
 Same day, next post, "Share it with meme" thread: A nonny with a penchant for self-pity [[http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/123674.html?thread=636383770#cmt636383770|apologized]] thus:

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